For me, it was more like a encyclopedic, holistic approach. I wouldn’t taxonomize again my activities into artistic activities or science activities. It would be all going — yeah, also the machine I made, it’s like something I imagined when I was a child, always imagined doing a big machine. ((Cookie Cutter, Joseph Wagenbach, Seized By A Certain Hunger, Started Out Curious)) Maybe — originally, I wanted to do a big chocolate machine, and then when I was trying to be funny with my friends, I wanted to do a shit machine. ((Cake Crawl)) It was — there’s not much of a friction or a difference between childhood and today.