Now, I committed to the radical Jesus, but I’m committed to the Jesus whom I think is the Jesus that is the dominant Jesus of critical New Testament scholarship. ((The Virgin Birth)) I’m very much committed to that, I very much believe in it. So that — and also, I am committed to the Christ of what I call the radical Christian tradition. For example, the Christ of William Blake or the Christ of Milton, I could — there’s one thing that I’ve tried to do, is to draw from literature deep materials on these things and try to — bring them together theologically.