Bert did a lot of big tattoos on people, and he liked doing big tattoos. And he had decorated quite a few people that were — but the work is like tattooed men in sideshows, and women also. And I don’t know, he just had a — he was a super charismatic guy that — I always say that when you got around Bert Grimm, and was working with him, you wanted to jerk all your clothes off and get tattooed all over. ((Childhood Amnesia))

But he — if you get into a profession, and tattooing is decorating the body, I mean here you’re decorating the body all day. And yeah, I guess you basically like that. I had gotten hold of a picture of two eagles fighting in a sunburst from an old tattoo artist by the name of Brooklyn Joe Lieber up in the San Francisco Bay Area. And I carried that around for a few years, and when Bert seen it, he’s “Oh, I’d love to put that on.” Bert was this super salesman in a way. And he was — but he had this excitement about him. So, I said, well, you could put it on my back. I didn’t have anything on my back. I had an eagle on my chest, and my arms were very well covered, and I had some tattoos on my legs, but still a lot of white hide showing.