I was working actually in Conshohocken, Pennsylvania. I don’t know how to spell it, look it up. There was a US steel mill, I had gone there because I was doing a big sculpture, I don’t know, someplace in Tennessee or something, but I was doing it there. And I was doing it in stainless steel, I once again was this dish working in this factory and all the guys were willing to help me. One of the guys came in and said, “Hey Bev, I have a new material, you want to try it?” And he showed me what just looked like a piece of rusted steel. And I said, “What is it?” and he said, “It’s called COR-TEN.” Because — let me explain.

COR-TEN is a brand name. Most people, including the artists who work with it, do not know that this is a US steel brand name. You could get COR-TEN in — whatever, with different numbers, at Bethlehem Steel or whatever other place, because I had bought the steel that had a high percentage of copper and other things in it. And so, they gave me these pieces and I made three sculptures, one which is in some museum, in Kentucky, I don’t know who bought it. So, arguably I am the first artist to ever use it. Then I fell in love with it and used it all the time.