They were very much opposed, but really opposed, my sister and — because there were no — I couldn’t make a living with Pedro in sense of a middle class, because Pedro was earning very little through — as a geographer. ((Hellbox, Hyphenated Word, Salary Of Both, Simple Background, Vow Of Poverty)) And that’s why he got to teach in another school. He would go to the suburbs at midnight to give class and things like that, because — to survive, because from Pedro, he never made any accidents on me, never — he wouldn’t understand what I was doing in the sense of — I mean he’s not ignorant, but the field of art of any field is very complex, but he got — seeing all the time how the development — so, he, I mean, wouldn’t be charging me “How are we going to live?” We never asked that. That’s it.

I had my parents up to the middle of the 70s, from the 60s, yeah, 50s, they were fine. But then not trying to help me, but I had children. Then they understood they had to help. We were going really to — I’m not exaggerating, but to starve or something.